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the other is paul ryan. watching ryan introduce romney tonight and seeing how base republicans reacted to president obama targeting paul ryan today in that speech, i think there's going to be a lot of pressure on mitt romney to pick paul ryan and while that might leave some democrats giddy about it, i thch think that makes the base as giddy for the party. could be a fascinating ticket preview we got tonight. >> the romney/ryan ticket taking shape. hang in there with us. joining us is rachel maddow, host of rachel maddow and steve schmidt, msnbc political analyst and adviser to the 2008 mccain campaign. rachel, these republicans talk through your show. rick santorum seizes par of the your show then romney seizes part of your show. do you have expresed thoughts on tonight's proceedings your audience would have heard if mitt romney didn't grab your microphone? >> thank you, you are very kind. the romney/ryan prospect that chuck was just raising there is interesting. i mean, the democratic and particularly the l
the other is paul ryan. watching ryan introduce romney tonight and seeing how base republicans reacted to president obama targeting paul ryan today in that speech, i think there's going to be a lot of pressure on mitt romney to pick paul ryan and while that might leave some democrats giddy about it, i thch think that makes the base as giddy for the party. could be a fascinating ticket preview we got tonight. >> the romney/ryan ticket taking shape. hang in there with us. joining us is...
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and where exactly is paul ryan getting his radical ideology say to. just put a picture of me when i was like nine years old so to live through. an excess and i am and will get a sense that i love rap and hip hop music and pretty. she was kind of a yesterday. i'm very proud of the all the belgian cd it's played. look look look . you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so sleep you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else and you hear or see some other part of it and realize that everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm sorry welcome to the big picture . as a president said today about the republican budget plan proposed by multimillionaire congressman paul ryan from wisconsin take a look. it is a trojan horse disguised as deficit reduction plans is really an attempt to impose a radical vision on our country it is thinly veiled social garm darwinism. question is where does this radical vision come from whose ideology is it that's motivating people like paul ryan in the rest of the republican party to push for proposa
and where exactly is paul ryan getting his radical ideology say to. just put a picture of me when i was like nine years old so to live through. an excess and i am and will get a sense that i love rap and hip hop music and pretty. she was kind of a yesterday. i'm very proud of the all the belgian cd it's played. look look look . you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so sleep you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else and you hear or see some other part of it and...
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i respect paul ryan. he is a very smart guy. at the end of the day i am not sure that paul ryan and the ryan budget, and we have two years of ryan budgets and it is the same thing over and over again is a very smart thing. what will come out of the obama machine and the defensiveness that will come out of the romney camp about old people and poor people, et cetera, it is going to get to an elevated point where it will scare people. it is going to scare soccer moms. who do they care about? their kids and image aing parents. that's not helpful under a ryan budget. you can put him on the vp ticket. it is perfectly fine. he is young, dynamic. >> you don't believe he has the ability to appeal -- >> no, i don't. >> independents who may not quote, unquote soccer mom of the day. >> i think he is a handsome man. i am not sure his policies -- >> you boil him down to the way looks. >> no, no, no, i would never boil that down. i am just saying. he is an approachable guy. he is a nice guy. >> midwest. >> absolutely. i look at someone more li
i respect paul ryan. he is a very smart guy. at the end of the day i am not sure that paul ryan and the ryan budget, and we have two years of ryan budgets and it is the same thing over and over again is a very smart thing. what will come out of the obama machine and the defensiveness that will come out of the romney camp about old people and poor people, et cetera, it is going to get to an elevated point where it will scare people. it is going to scare soccer moms. who do they care about? their...
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let me show you how paul ryan responded. quote, like his reckless budgets, today's speech by president obama is as revealing as it is disappointing. while others lead by offering real solutions, he has chosen to distort the truth and divide americans in order to distract from his failed record. his empty promises are quickly becoming broken promises and the american people will hold him accountable for this violation of their trust. your response, the white house response to congressman paul ryan. >> well, what i'd like you to do is contrast that brief bit of boiler plate from congressman ryan to the substantive fact-filled presentation the president gave today. what's lacking from congressman ryan and what is lacking in his budget are any of the statistics and facts and numbers and math to back up his promises. what we know is that in order to pay for substantial new tax cuts for the wealthy, the money has to come from somewhere. and it's going to come from nondefense discretionary spending, only. and from entitlement progr
let me show you how paul ryan responded. quote, like his reckless budgets, today's speech by president obama is as revealing as it is disappointing. while others lead by offering real solutions, he has chosen to distort the truth and divide americans in order to distract from his failed record. his empty promises are quickly becoming broken promises and the american people will hold him accountable for this violation of their trust. your response, the white house response to congressman paul...
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ryan should pick paul ryan as vp. if he is going to run on the paul ryan budget, he ought get the guy to sell it and push it. on the other hand if you are somebody else who wants to be president in 2016, why would you sign on thinking you should have called the romney campaign? they are going down fast. more people see mitt romney the less they like him. mitch dan yields or chris christie or jeb bush or anybody who thinks they have a chance, i don't want to be anywhere near this ship. >> paul ryan, the paul ryan plan and augusta, the master's jamal simmons, democratic strategist in studio with us 866-55-press, your ticket to join the conversation here on this thursday, april 5th. how about it? >>welcome to the war room. >>jennifer granholm joins current tv. a former two-term governor. >>make your voice heard. >>detremined to find solutions. >>that partnership in order to invest in our country is critical. >>driven to find the truth. >>how did romney get his groove back? >>fearless, independent and above all, political
ryan should pick paul ryan as vp. if he is going to run on the paul ryan budget, he ought get the guy to sell it and push it. on the other hand if you are somebody else who wants to be president in 2016, why would you sign on thinking you should have called the romney campaign? they are going down fast. more people see mitt romney the less they like him. mitch dan yields or chris christie or jeb bush or anybody who thinks they have a chance, i don't want to be anywhere near this ship. >>...
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the paul ryan plan doesn't reduce the deficit. it takes this huge, huge hit at programs for the poor, and it turns medicare into coupons. so why would you put all of that out there in an election year, knowing that the democrats could then shoot at it? >> i think there are a few things going on now in terms of the incentives that motivate republicans. one, this is the most conservative -- just if you were to map this on paper -- this is the most conservative congress, the most conservative republican conference in the house that's ever been in house, the one put in last year. a lot of these republicans just simply think ideologically this is the right thing. they're for it. a lot of them are also insulated. they're not going to have to worry about it. then there are pragmatic i think people deep inside are pragmatic republicans who are left in washington and sort of in the national party. but they learned a very important lesson from the 2010 midterms when you had sharron angle, christine o'donnell. you had all of these people, te
the paul ryan plan doesn't reduce the deficit. it takes this huge, huge hit at programs for the poor, and it turns medicare into coupons. so why would you put all of that out there in an election year, knowing that the democrats could then shoot at it? >> i think there are a few things going on now in terms of the incentives that motivate republicans. one, this is the most conservative -- just if you were to map this on paper -- this is the most conservative congress, the most...
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the paul ryan plan doesn't reduce the deficit. it takes this huge, huge hit at programs for the poor, and it turns medicare into coupons. so why would you put all of that out there in an election year, knowing that the democrats could then shoot at it? >> i think there are a few things going on now in terms of the incentives that motivate republicans. one, this is the most conservative -- just if you were to map this on paper -- this is the most conservative congress, the most conservative republican conference in the house that's ever been in house, the one put in last year. a lot of these republicans just simply think ideologically this is the right thing. they're for it. a lot of them are also insulated. they're not going to have to worry about it. then there are pragmatic i think people deep inside are pragmatic republicans who are left in washington and sort of in the national party. but they learned a very important lesson from the 2010 midterms when you had sharron angle, christine o'donnell. you had all of these people, te
the paul ryan plan doesn't reduce the deficit. it takes this huge, huge hit at programs for the poor, and it turns medicare into coupons. so why would you put all of that out there in an election year, knowing that the democrats could then shoot at it? >> i think there are a few things going on now in terms of the incentives that motivate republicans. one, this is the most conservative -- just if you were to map this on paper -- this is the most conservative congress, the most...
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. >> that is congressman paul ryan, chairman of the house budget committee. "the wall street journ" says that thehite house tm must feel president has not hit it with his comments. social darwinism, charles? >> accusing ryan of trickle- down social darwinism. who writes this rubbish? he and the democrats have not presented a budget in three years. here are the republicans, presenting a budget ich is serious. it h its flaws, but it a tax entitlements, the problem of tax reform. this president has spoken about it but has not done anything about it. he has decided he cannot run on his record and cannot run on a mission -- a vision. he will run against the republicans as the republicans were the ones in office. he has been president for one term. what has he offeredn the budget? >> it is hard to know whose budget is a bigger joke, obama's or the republicans'. they are irresponsible in the extreme. >> how? tell me how the ryan budget -- >> cuts in discretionary spending -- would shut down the fda went date a week -- faa one day a week. >> increes in defse sndin wh
. >> that is congressman paul ryan, chairman of the house budget committee. "the wall street journ" says that thehite house tm must feel president has not hit it with his comments. social darwinism, charles? >> accusing ryan of trickle- down social darwinism. who writes this rubbish? he and the democrats have not presented a budget in three years. here are the republicans, presenting a budget ich is serious. it h its flaws, but it a tax entitlements, the problem of tax...
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that is what paul ryan says. if mitt romney would spend time with brian and mitch daniel the party will clarify it's description of the proper role of government. romney i think is capable of carrying that forward. >> paul: we have to take one more break. hits and misses of the week when we come back. rsting with more f. [ crunches ] mmm. ♪ [ male announcer ] pringles... bursting with more flavor. [ crunch! ] ♪ i have two products in front of you. we are going to start with product x. this is a very affordable product that will help save you a, lot of money. i like it.. i like it too. this is product y. this is a much more expensive product. you will not see a lot of savings with this one... harsh. you chose geico and you did not choose their competitor. was this your first car insurance taste test? >> paul: time for hits and misses of the week. james, first to you. >> the hit to the president. kudos to president obama signing the jobs act. it will make it easier for companies to raise capital. >> and with wi
that is what paul ryan says. if mitt romney would spend time with brian and mitch daniel the party will clarify it's description of the proper role of government. romney i think is capable of carrying that forward. >> paul: we have to take one more break. hits and misses of the week when we come back. rsting with more f. [ crunches ] mmm. ♪ [ male announcer ] pringles... bursting with more flavor. [ crunch! ] ♪ i have two products in front of you. we are going to start with product x....
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and paul ryan is from wisconsin. he needed paul ryan's endorsement. and so they were joined at the hip. so just shows the extent to which mitt romney continues to be in a primary battle even though everybody thinks he's going to be the nominee. gwen: how successful can the republican whoever it is nominee be targeterring the president -- the fear of obama's second term? how much is that central to what the -- what all these arguments are about? >> well, the argument that mitt romney made in front of the newspaper editors was that the president in his first two years did a lot of really aggressive things. he spent a lot. he passed big programs. that he sort of trimmed his sails going into in election. and sort of moved a little bit toward the center. what mitt romney, the doubt he is trying to plant in voters' minds is once this election is over with, which barack obama would show up. gwen: and where is the part establishment on both sides in all of these arguments? we know where they are with romney, for instance. >> well, the establishment on the rep
and paul ryan is from wisconsin. he needed paul ryan's endorsement. and so they were joined at the hip. so just shows the extent to which mitt romney continues to be in a primary battle even though everybody thinks he's going to be the nominee. gwen: how successful can the republican whoever it is nominee be targeterring the president -- the fear of obama's second term? how much is that central to what the -- what all these arguments are about? >> well, the argument that mitt romney made...
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he loves being next to paul ryan because paul ryan will be around no matter what. walk a much more volatile player. romney and santorum are glad to talk about how they agree with walker there, big for the anti-union stuff, big for the cuts, but to be photographed with scott walker at this point is a rather dangerous thing. i think walker and romney understand that. that picture comes back to haunt men if walker is defeated in recall or runs into big legal trouble, that's embarrassing for romney. walker is going into a recall election where he's going to desperately be trying to present himself as a moderate figure, so he really doesn't want a picture of him next to presidential candidate who has had to run hard hard to the right. bottom line is, i think they have sort of decided to keep their distance but they have talked each other up in all these cases. >> great to have you with us. in the news tonight, mitt romney has won
he loves being next to paul ryan because paul ryan will be around no matter what. walk a much more volatile player. romney and santorum are glad to talk about how they agree with walker there, big for the anti-union stuff, big for the cuts, but to be photographed with scott walker at this point is a rather dangerous thing. i think walker and romney understand that. that picture comes back to haunt men if walker is defeated in recall or runs into big legal trouble, that's embarrassing for...
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here's what paul ryan said a little more of paul ryan on "morning joe." you know, we're kind of used to these verbal tantrums from the president, unfortunately -- >> that was a verbal tantrum? >> i would think so. look at it this way, we propose to increase annual federal spending from $3.6 million a year to $4.9 instead of the president's $5.5 trillion. that makes us social darwinists. >> joining me now gene sperling, a man never known for verbal tantrums. gene, great to see you. your response to pixie dust and verbal tantrums? >> look, the president's proposing the buffett rule as part of an overall agenda he has for growth, jobs and long-term deficit reduction. what's very important about the buffett rule is not only does it contribute to deficit reduction, but it contributes to the trust and fairness that the american people would have in our current government and also in the prospects of future tax reform. if people believe that tax reform or efforts we're going to make to bring the deficit down are going to, once again, lead to situations where the
here's what paul ryan said a little more of paul ryan on "morning joe." you know, we're kind of used to these verbal tantrums from the president, unfortunately -- >> that was a verbal tantrum? >> i would think so. look at it this way, we propose to increase annual federal spending from $3.6 million a year to $4.9 instead of the president's $5.5 trillion. that makes us social darwinists. >> joining me now gene sperling, a man never known for verbal tantrums. gene,...
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policies like the paul ryan budget in underwear if you go to our website it's all about promoting the ryan budget and encouraging both democrats and republicans running for president to endorse these ideas but other than that they don't get many details on what their exact plan is it's pretty much just a paul ryan promotion group amazing you also have a story up over public report now about the business roundtable what do we need to know about the business roundtable and their access to our lawmakers but this is a very powerful lobby group kind of like the chamber of commerce they've got tens of millions of dollars they spent a lot on lobbying. berenice it's bringing in c.e.o.'s of fortune one hundred companies you know xerox j.p. morgan besser think wellpoint and bring them in to literally need with legislation they want to lobby against the volcker rule which is their big priority right now for lobbying for more corporate tax cuts and specially tax cuts on call on profits made overseas this repatriation issue when he was this is were not on table is bragging right now and saying tha
policies like the paul ryan budget in underwear if you go to our website it's all about promoting the ryan budget and encouraging both democrats and republicans running for president to endorse these ideas but other than that they don't get many details on what their exact plan is it's pretty much just a paul ryan promotion group amazing you also have a story up over public report now about the business roundtable what do we need to know about the business roundtable and their access to our...
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he really took off after paul ryan unfairly -- >> let's talk about his budget. he does -- >> thank you very much, gentlemen. >>> there you have it. that's it for tonight's show. we're off for good friday. we'll see you monday night. [ artis brown ] america is facing some tough challenges right now. two of the most important are energy security and economic growth. north america actually has one of the largest oil reserves in the world. a large part of that is oil sands. this resource has the ability to create hundreds of thousands of jobs. at our kearl project in canada, we'll be able to produce these oil sands with the same emissions as many other oils and that's a huge breakthrough. that's good for our country's energy security and our economy. ttd#: 1-800-345-2550 let's talk about market volatility. ttd#: 1-800-345-2550 in times like these, it can be tough to know which ttd#: 1-800-345-2550 way the wind is blowing. ttd#: 1-800-345-2550 at charles schwab, we're ready with objective insights about ttd#: 1-800-345-2550 the present market and economic conditions.
he really took off after paul ryan unfairly -- >> let's talk about his budget. he does -- >> thank you very much, gentlemen. >>> there you have it. that's it for tonight's show. we're off for good friday. we'll see you monday night. [ artis brown ] america is facing some tough challenges right now. two of the most important are energy security and economic growth. north america actually has one of the largest oil reserves in the world. a large part of that is oil sands....
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conference of catholic bishops also send letters to paul ryan. the letter i'm going to read from their letter said a just spending bill cannot rely on disproportionate cuts in essential services to the poor and vulnerable. i've been a little bit tough on the bishops for being focused on other issues so bravo to the bishops, i'm giving them applause on that. so, i assume you're happy to see this united focus of catholics on this issue. >> absolutely. and i think what needs to be noted especially is that bishop blair and his co chair had sent a letter to congressman ryan before he issued his budget, and so that while a new release was released today with the same principles, they really did try to influence his thought about catholic social teaching. when congressman ryan said he's preaching the fullness of the gospel message he's been totally informed that this is not true yet continues to persist in it. i'm glad that they have spoken out against this. >> it is. it's so great finally. let me -- i'm with you sister, preaching. let me ask you though
conference of catholic bishops also send letters to paul ryan. the letter i'm going to read from their letter said a just spending bill cannot rely on disproportionate cuts in essential services to the poor and vulnerable. i've been a little bit tough on the bishops for being focused on other issues so bravo to the bishops, i'm giving them applause on that. so, i assume you're happy to see this united focus of catholics on this issue. >> absolutely. and i think what needs to be noted...
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what do you say to paul ryan? >> what i say to paul ryan, as i representative of thousands and thousands of senior citizens whose rug he would pull out from under them, him and mitt romney, with their budget that would end mid care as we know it turn it into a voucher system, make sure that seniors had to go out on their own and figure out how to make up for the gap in their health insurance, that that's unacceptable. in america, we made a commitment long ago that we were going to have a safety net for seniors and a floor through which we're not going to allow them to fall through and we're going to mack sure that their children don't have to go into medical bankruptcy taking care of them. that is what the republican path to poverty would do in the ryan/romney budget. the blueprint that they've laid out, it shows where their values are. >> people are questioning if the rhetoric at this point seven months before the election, what's going to look like going down the road? orrin hatch said something i want your reac
what do you say to paul ryan? >> what i say to paul ryan, as i representative of thousands and thousands of senior citizens whose rug he would pull out from under them, him and mitt romney, with their budget that would end mid care as we know it turn it into a voucher system, make sure that seniors had to go out on their own and figure out how to make up for the gap in their health insurance, that that's unacceptable. in america, we made a commitment long ago that we were going to have a...
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paul ryan being seen with him time and time again. paul ryan introduced him last night. knowing that could help him pick off some of that tea party support knowing he had to have a better showing in wisconsin among those groups so we would be having this conversation today. >> the bigger issue too last night, his speech was the tone was very much leading into the general election tone that he's going to have. it was very negative. it was all political rhetoric. i'm attacking the president. at a time when he needs to bring in the youth and the women and these groups that bhoem last time, i hope that's not the narrative he has in the general election. >> i think that's the narrative. >>> he also towards the end of his speech, he and obama have gone back and forth on this is american exceptionalism, who is more exceptionally loving of american exceptionalism i guess. he did try to say believe in america, we believe in america. we believe in ourselves. clearly that's also part of the general election message and him taking on obama. >> focus on mitt romney's message. hugo, i
paul ryan being seen with him time and time again. paul ryan introduced him last night. knowing that could help him pick off some of that tea party support knowing he had to have a better showing in wisconsin among those groups so we would be having this conversation today. >> the bigger issue too last night, his speech was the tone was very much leading into the general election tone that he's going to have. it was very negative. it was all political rhetoric. i'm attacking the...
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but i must say that in all that we said so far about my pal paul ryan we neglected paul ryan lowered tax rate on corporation and the rich. got about i think it goes down to 25% on the top. 10%. >> andrea: rich would pay higher under his plan. >> juan: no, they wouldn't. >> andrea: they would. >> juan: he has forgotten the talk about lower tax rate to spur economic growth, well, exactly how would this be revenue neutral? how would you pay for the tax cut to the rich? he doesn't say. he doesn't say what tax deductions or loopholes he'd eliminate. how is that a responsible budget document? >> greg: okay, let me ask you, kimberly. could you argue that president obama is exercising social darwinism putting off the harsh cuts so we might end up in a situation much like greece, or a road warrior apocalyptic, when we are the survival of the fittest on motor bikes. >> kimberly: he is pushing us down along the path for sure. the comments he made don't help anybody. it stirs up class warfare. he's acting like a cry baby. he is not coming forward with any good ideas. harry reid is not helping at
but i must say that in all that we said so far about my pal paul ryan we neglected paul ryan lowered tax rate on corporation and the rich. got about i think it goes down to 25% on the top. 10%. >> andrea: rich would pay higher under his plan. >> juan: no, they wouldn't. >> andrea: they would. >> juan: he has forgotten the talk about lower tax rate to spur economic growth, well, exactly how would this be revenue neutral? how would you pay for the tax cut to the rich? he...
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he knows what is in paul ryan's mine. other than $5 trillion in tax cuts -- >> that is simply false. on social security, ryan has offered to raise the retirement age and reduced the amount the rich get rid the democrats have offered zero. on medicare, for which ryan and republicans have got slaughtered, he proposes to go to a premium system. the democrats have offered zero except it demagoguery. on discretionary spending, ryan has spelled out all kinds of cuts. i agree come in when area, he talks about lowering the rates but did not specify the lo opholes. having gone out on a limb on everything else, you are asking the republicans to commit political suicide when the democrats have offered nothing on anything. >> he is much more specific on entitlements than the democrats. if enacted, it would have a shot at controlling medicare cuts. the democrats are shamefully non-specific. but both sides are not willing to tell the voters about the problem. >> the people who pay the most are between $60,000 and $120,000. they get abo
he knows what is in paul ryan's mine. other than $5 trillion in tax cuts -- >> that is simply false. on social security, ryan has offered to raise the retirement age and reduced the amount the rich get rid the democrats have offered zero. on medicare, for which ryan and republicans have got slaughtered, he proposes to go to a premium system. the democrats have offered zero except it demagoguery. on discretionary spending, ryan has spelled out all kinds of cuts. i agree come in when area,...
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americans and the biggest corporations in the search for more and more money the paul ryan budget strips away laws to safeguard the public and keep our air water and food clean so the corporations can maximize their profits while we all choke the paul ryan budget ends medicare as we know it and cuts a huge chunk out of medicaid weakening the role of government to provide health insurance and instead giving for profit health insurance corporations absolute dominion over the health care market in the united states and his nine hundred forty four times new york times article vice president was also highlighted this interesting tactic of the fascists writing. always and everywhere they can be identified by their appeal to prejudice and by the desire to play upon the fears and vanities of different groups in order to gain power it is no coincidence that the growth of modern tyrants has in every case been heralded by the growth of prejudice so is it just a coincidence if the same republicans who are supporting the fascistic paul ryan budget are also promoting prejudice against women gays and m
americans and the biggest corporations in the search for more and more money the paul ryan budget strips away laws to safeguard the public and keep our air water and food clean so the corporations can maximize their profits while we all choke the paul ryan budget ends medicare as we know it and cuts a huge chunk out of medicaid weakening the role of government to provide health insurance and instead giving for profit health insurance corporations absolute dominion over the health care market in...
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it will be paul ryan's plan that's the theme of this election. mitt romney is cooperating with that. he may do the etch-a-sketch thing and may make his distance from paul ryan later, but it will be more difficult after the events of the past three or four days. >> well, it's interesting that mitt romney wears the ryan plan. he's endorsed it. president obama can't think of anything better because here's what he said of the ryan plan today. >> in this country broad based prosperity has never trickled down from the success of a wealthy few. it's always come from the success of a strong and growing middle class. >> and of course, he talks about the ryan plan as a trojan horse. politically james carville, is this good for the president? it seems that way, but will it be in two or three months? >> i think it will. i think agree with david. i think the president tipped his hand today. what i'm curious is is romney tipping his hand because ryan is very popular with the economic conservatives in the republican party, and he may feel that he needs to maybe
it will be paul ryan's plan that's the theme of this election. mitt romney is cooperating with that. he may do the etch-a-sketch thing and may make his distance from paul ryan later, but it will be more difficult after the events of the past three or four days. >> well, it's interesting that mitt romney wears the ryan plan. he's endorsed it. president obama can't think of anything better because here's what he said of the ryan plan today. >> in this country broad based prosperity...
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president obama made a series of accusations which then inspired paul ryan to come out. this is the house budget chairman. he accused the president of lying about what he was presenting. he actually used that word lying. i think the "washington post" did a fact check, politico fact check did a fact check on the allegations and they found routinely she lying. he is distorting the truth about what the republicans are presenting. i want to see more media outlets take him to task and question his tear yeah of what it really is. >> paul ryan didn't come out and say the president misrepresented the fact of the budget plan at all. i think what is striking here, i would like to see more discussion in the media about facts as opposed to just the spin and the facts. >> that paul ryan wants to to cut spending and help middle-class poor and seniors and give that money to millionaires and billionaires. that is actually -- the point is what is frustrating about the media coverage of all of this increasingly to the election we're going to keep spinning different opinions. let's put the
president obama made a series of accusations which then inspired paul ryan to come out. this is the house budget chairman. he accused the president of lying about what he was presenting. he actually used that word lying. i think the "washington post" did a fact check, politico fact check did a fact check on the allegations and they found routinely she lying. he is distorting the truth about what the republicans are presenting. i want to see more media outlets take him to task and...
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maybe paul ryan somewhere in the cabinet. that may be the conversation but i don't think he's going to be the guy down the hall. >> howard, you saw president obama's speech today. is the president already assuming the general election between himself and mitt romney has begun? this i believe was the first time the president has mentioned romney by name. he was very forceful in his speech today. >> yes. he was forceful to the point of being grimly determined to make the case that the paul ryan budget belongs to the republican party, it belongs to mitt romney. it's the defining feature of the modern hard right republican party and barack obama is prepared to run against it and run against it hard. i was struck at the speech he gave before the newspaper editors. he didn't talk about his own record. he didn't talk about the administration's accomplishments. he focused almost exclusively on the ryan budget and that's to firm up the base of the democratic party what the president is going to focus on. >> romney's new take on presid
maybe paul ryan somewhere in the cabinet. that may be the conversation but i don't think he's going to be the guy down the hall. >> howard, you saw president obama's speech today. is the president already assuming the general election between himself and mitt romney has begun? this i believe was the first time the president has mentioned romney by name. he was very forceful in his speech today. >> yes. he was forceful to the point of being grimly determined to make the case that the...
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paul ryan said he would consider an offer to run for vice president. four days later he endorsed mitt romney. we know what paul ryan wants from this. he would like to be vice president. what does mitt romney want? that's easy too. paul ryan is credible with the tea party. it's credible with conservatives. they see him as a movement man. the other thing is less spoken, he is a stone cold conservative. as right wing as rick santorum on these issues. it's a natural fit. >> why are none of them standing with scott walker? you can't get them together on the campaign trial. >> you might want to consider that scott walker ishe subject of a john doe investigion into criminal corruption. that photo might come back to haunt you not just if that goes bad but do you want to be photographed with a guy that is on your agenda and gets beaten in a recall election. >> howard, does paul ryan offer more to mitt romney than any other conservative because of his obviously his position as a chairman of the house budget committee and he's come up with a strong and conservati
paul ryan said he would consider an offer to run for vice president. four days later he endorsed mitt romney. we know what paul ryan wants from this. he would like to be vice president. what does mitt romney want? that's easy too. paul ryan is credible with the tea party. it's credible with conservatives. they see him as a movement man. the other thing is less spoken, he is a stone cold conservative. as right wing as rick santorum on these issues. it's a natural fit. >> why are none of...