we have also will continue and we have sounded the alarm numerous times before about external actors who attempted to hijack this protests. >> tonight. >> we're here to show you some example of these external actors who have no no affiliation with columbia columbia university as well as some of our other educational facilities what's happened all right so we are on just off of a columbia university day and you're seeing behind me that is hamilton hall, where police stormed in for many different vantage points, jumping through

windows within really a shock in oh to try to get to the protesters who had broken in and occupied the building. >> they occupied the building, throwing out band and ours that read things like intifada and free palestine. they have been on campus for the pro-palestinian movement for two weeks. now. two weeks would be today they were removed dozens of people arrested. we are hearing now that they have some of them have already been released from jail, but you're listening there to mayor eric adams of new york city and he says that he, that this was a protest that had been, and this is his words co-opted by outside influences. and he says that they were going to stay been sounding the alarm that these protests were supposed to be peaceful. he said, but that they had been co-opted by outside influences. and that he was going to show evidence that there were people who were not

affiliated with columbia university who were part of this protests on campus. you will remember this has been going on for a couple of weeks. you had an encampment that it was outside, but on columbia university campus that had tents that were there, the university had wanted those times and to disperse. there had been discussions between the university. and its does student protests leaders that broke down at 2:00 on a monday and since then, then you had this incident overnight where you had people breaking in to the hamilton hall and police coming in the evening? get them we also have protests that are happening across the country. and one of them got extremely violent last night. all a bit captured on video. i want to go now to the ucla campus in los angeles, where our stephanie elam is because now there is a large police presence who have shown up after the silence overnight. stephanie, what can you tell us that the sour yeah. >> it's definitely a complete

different energy here now then what we saw overnight once we've been here now that the sun has come up, you can see a little bit more. you can even just tell by looking at the police officers that it's a different energy now, things are much calmer here. there quieter, there was chanting overnight. you look at that video that was happening late last night, early into the early hours of this morning. you could see that there were dermis is happening in different parts of this green area here on ucla on this area were in front of us. you can see the pro israeli supporters have been and then there's a barricade. then there's a walkway where there were some hired six dirty. >> and then on the other side of that is the palestinian encampment. >> and what we saw in some of those video, we saw some change here where there was people who were going at the palestinian encampment, pulling away the barricades, the security in the middle was trying to keep those barricades in place. we also

know from some of the student reporters for the daily brewing here the student newspaper, saying that some of the reporters were actually assaulted and gas during during what was happening here at last night, they calling it coke dangerous and that they needed to get out of here. we do know that the mayor, karen bass put out a statement last night than what she was seeing on the campus was at borons, the chancellor is saying that what was happening here on campus was now unlawful. >> all of the setting the scene for somewhere around after 1:00 a.m. is when we start to see this big police presence arrive here on campus, when i got here, this barricade wasn't it? >> here? >> we saw the law enforcement officers who are from different agencies locally, but from different agencies coming up and making a line here and then pushing some of protesters out along that path over there, pushing them out, pushing them out, and then they slowly started to erect this barricade and then they pulled back so things are a lot calmer here. >> we saw some of the people

out here for a while who were still playing music very loudly, still chanting, yelling, yelling at some people. there are some people trying to keep hope people apart. last night, as well as today and now they've cleared out as we're getting closer to the sun coming up here, but it's still not clear at this point, sarah, what exactly transpired hired that force these sides to clash overnight as they did here on the campus of ucla. very different than what we saw during the day yesterday for sure yeah. that overnight clash was wild for lack of a better world, we did talk to a student who was appian cabinet last hour who said that it began with a group of people they hadn't seen before on campus and they say that they were attacked. we will be hearing more from the police, certainly as to how all of this went down, but we did notice one student student was being severely beaten by the crowd that had showed up. that was counter protesting. that

encampment there the pro-palestinian can i do have a question for you? food because in talking to that student, he said, look, we have not yet heard from police that we must disperse. have you heard anything this morning from the police as two what they're going to do further as you heard any of those announcements that the encampment is has been deemed illegal by the university and that the police are going to move in yeah no we have not heard that. i mean, we saw the police pushing people out. there are definitely in there riot gear, law enforcement officers were, but there have been no one continents we heard some more chanting startup again from the encampment but that's it. we haven't actually heard any loudspeaker announcement since from law enforcement out here they definitely made their presence known, but at the same time, they seem to just use their physical presence to push people people out. we didn't actually see them going after anyone from where we're standing here. we didn't see

that happening. it was all more of a physical presence together, creating getting that wall and pushing people out so not the aggressive stance that we've seen in other times and other instances here on the campus of ucla. so let's go a lot of questions about when the decision for them to come on campus happened and how they decided to tactically interact with the people that appear it's a really good point. >> i stepped elon. we heard that from a student as well, but they said that they were not getting help from the police once they weren't under attack. we will be watching this. i know you will be on campus. thank you so much to you. your fruit out there watching out for us. i do wanna go to some pictures right now the university of wisconsin, there his student protests. there, that is happening at this hour and police, i have moved in. please have moved into clear out protesters on that university. you hear the chanting there and they're police activity going on on that campus as we speak. so at

least two campuses where police have moved in to try and move now the protesters. and then of course, overnight here at columbia, that is exactly what happened on this campus. this would have been two weeks of the protein today that began with an encampment with tents outside that turned into two different places where students were occupying space. one was in the encampment with the tens and the other here at hamilton hall. hamilton hall with a long history of being occupied by students during protests so i think we are still looking at those pictures there in wisconsin where you're seeing police and protesters come up against one another as police are trying to move protesters who were there for palestinians and who are there to ask for a ceasefire and for their universities to divest from israel. they are being moved out as we speak. so that is the scene on university campuses. we are going to listen in here

to what is going on. there in whiskey content. as police activity is happening there right now, let's listen you're listening to police tell students to get back there and you can hear the citron christian very tense there on the university of wisconsin campus, we will continue to listen into this just a bit

here so you can see what's taking place in madison, wisconsin. >> sara, i know you're standing by columbia without much ability to see this video. this is live right now at madison in wisconsin, where these protests have been going on as well. and law enforcement there just appear to move into break up some of the barricades and appeared to take some people in custody some pushing and shoving that you can see there as well we saw much worse than this overnight at ucla hey, were some protesters and counter protesters who were clashing with each other what

you see here again is police pushing the line of protesters back in the protests are trying to hold their ground there and shoving back at law enforcement you also see as we have seen at many of these protests around the country the protesters are masked. some of the reasons for that is so that they can't get doxed some of it is so that if they are seen on video later on that footage cannot be used against them in trial but you do see it at more and more of the protests around the country. the situation seems to be stabilized, right there. tense but stable. sarah and again, i expect that you'll see scenes like this around the country today as colleges in different states see what happened at columbia overnight and some of the protesters react to that. certainly a us

cla overnight, we saw much worse than this. there yeah. >> it's absolutely true in india, we should mention that here at columbia in some of these universities, columbia toluse student's that broke into the hamilton hall that they would be expelled as opposed to suspended, which a suspended some of the proteins tester is when the first police action happened. here are a couple of weeks ago and you were seeing this all over campus. so another reason for some of the protesters using trying to skier, their faces is not wanting to face the consequences from the universities about as a possibility as well but we are seeing this across the united states really here in columbia, because the epicenter, which push this to the four and then you see it students at ucla, at usc, you saw students at ut austin you see students at two lane at this morning, we're seeing the havoc that is going on because swat teams, for example, a two lane went in to

remove student protests that's it. is they're here at columbia university. we saw an incredible scene of shocking all with dozens of police officers going into all different vantage points from the second story a window to the door, and pulling out protesters who had broken into that hall as well. so there's a lot of police activity going on on college campuses right now and this is all due to the war in gaza. basically the war has come home in the minds of these students and they want to see some action on the university. now they are seeing police this option. instead john tate for sarah, a standby for all moment again, we continue to look at the picture, from the university of wisconsin at madison. i want to bring in our homeless security analysts, julia chi m, and you'll well, yeah, we are looking at these pictures sarah. >> sarah described. >> i think the shock and all of it. but purely from a law enforcement standpoint particularly when we're talking about colombia last night as an operation it was less than two hours long. as an

operation, they move through the building that had been occupied remove the people that were in there, cleared the campus, made arrests in there were no reports of serious injuries on site. there does that provide an example of how to take care of these situations yes. it provides a good example as a last resort. so we've been saying throughout the last two weeks that that this kind of police action really should be a last resort and suddenly instances it may be appropriate each end of each individual university or college is going to have to decide when that, when that moment comes. but what we saw last night in real time, i was with you is the is a tiered approach in which you give students an off-ramp. that was the most important things so that the pool of people that may be that you would have to arrest gets limited. so we saw

students for its lead and then and then the more limited arrest and we would have officially bought and then the protection of the space. this has been a consistent theme of mine are relaxed two weeks protests as a natural part of college and university activity they needed to provide outlets for students to protest this typically, is ratcheting up that you've seen that i'm talking over right now? yeah. >> things have picked up the heat going out, juliette and again, if you can describe what we are seeing, it's okay because we're getting an audio bleed and if our control we can get rid of that from the university of wisconsin in madison but as we look at this, if you can see what's happening and how police are handling it, there, it's tense. >> i'm not suggesting it's not tense but it also does appear controlled and deliberate and this is different exactly it. this is different than two weeks ago when you saw some of these schools that sort of

automatic armed law enforcement approach with only one solution available, which was conflict. police have been known and our trained as we certainly know, for a de-escalation techniques. i hope i think that's what you're seeing now. not that they're casual, they are just trying to isolate and secure certain areas, make sure they don't bleed over to other areas. so that's the kind of use of law enforcement. basically time and manner enforcements to ensure that two things. one of course, at the community is protected. but secondly, also that the protesters are protected. it is that is, that is part of what we need to do as well so that they're not harmed. and i think what i'm seeing now on air is basically just isolation of a limited area protesters who seem to be willing to be arrested if, if you break the law, you're and you're willing to be arrested. and that is the part of what the

students perceive as civil disobedience there. they're not allowed to do unlawful things and then not face consequences and most of them still, even though we've now still have these numerous spots, most of this at colleges and universities throughout the country is still peaceful protest. and the goal is, i know this sounds counterintuitive, but the deployment of safety and security personnel actually can de-escalate these situations. it's vulnerabilities that we are and the openness that we have often seen that that causes these kinds of conflicts. and so hopefully we can have been saying this for two weeks, de-escalate de-escalate. escalate. we know how to do this we've seen it. we always talk about the bad examples, but i'm also looking at north northwestern and brown and wesleyan and other schools that are engaging students, allowing them to protest,

making sure that other students are safe and secure, having appropriate time and place restrictions protecting graduation, which is key for all of us and where that's not occurring to utilize law enforcement in a manner that is that is tiered and i think that's what we saw last night and what we're seeing now it's interesting to see the choice that some of those law enforcement officers are making not wearing helmets as they stand on the front line there. that does appear to be an attempt to de-escalate at least the appearance of what's going on. julia, don't go far. were you continue to monitor the situation? can in madison as there was a brief burst of tension of activity of conflict between law enforcement and protested. we don't know what precipitated the action right there we'll stay on that. we have our eye on college campuses around the country. it's a cnn special. i've got

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happened last night at columbia or police did go into remove the protesters who had taken over and vandalized one of the college buildings there that operation did take place without incident, seemingly without injury as well. we will continue to follow these demonstrations. all throughout the morning in the meantime, women in florida are facing a new reality this morning and new ban on abortions after six weeks takes effects. six weeks is before many women even know they're pregnant now up until now, fabs is a woman is actually traveled to florida for abortion services. cnn medical correspondent meg tirrell is in jacksonville. this morning. what are you seeing? what are you hearing me? >> well, john is expected to be a much different day today here at this clinic where we are called a woman's choice in jacksonville, we are starting to see more folks showing up here here, including more anti-abortion protestors, a handful of them here along with some of the escorts for people who are still coming to the clinic today, abortion is legal in florida up until six weeks, but previously it had been up

until 15 weeks. so quite different this morning, this clinic had been scheduling two to four times as many patients in the days leading up to this law, change, trying to see he those patients before this took effect florida has been an important access point for abortion across the south that accounted for about one and 12 abortions nationally in 2020 three and one and three in the south, we spoke with a patient inside this clinic yesterday, who was in the process of getting a medication abortion. she was comfortable only sharing her first its name candace, and not showing her face on camera for privacy reasons. here's what she told us about the impact of this on her i've experienced traumatic births i went on to help the children, but it was very touching. >> go as high risk and now being over that 35 mark, it's even more high-risk for me to get pregnant so it's very scary that these laws are being put into place my life matters and it's just a tough thing to have to go through. i don't

think anybody plans to do something like this until it happens to them in their face. so that decision florida has also been a place where people from other states with more restrictive laws have come to seek abortions as many as 8,000 last year and increasing numbers since roe v wade was overturned. now, the closest states where people will be able to access abortion are north carolina, where there's a 12 week limit or even further north to virginia beyond that. but guys, there is still a political fight ongoing here because abortion is going to be on the ballot in november, both sides sort of playing out behind me here at this clinic trying to make their case to people in florida for or against abortion. but that of course this clinic is trying to stay afloat until then, guys all right. >> make tirrell in jacksonville. this is going to be a very difficult day for a lot of people in florida. we appreciate you being there and joining us right now is florida state senator lauren book. she's the democratic leader of the senate. there's stay sender. thank you so much for

joining me. your long time in vocal abortion rights advocate. what does today mean for florida is a devastating day for women across the state of florida. and quite frankly, in the southeast and the reality of this ban hit before today where women were being turned away from clinics because of our 24 hour waiting period and two appointments required before they can receive abortion. so the reality has really set in. it is a devastating de, a devastating time and truly horrific when you think about 84,000 abortions happen, 2023, 51 to 54,000 of those happening after six weeks there is going to be a huge dearth of services here for women and it is a scary time. >> we've heard from an abortion provider in florida of a physician who was speaking to my colleague john berman just last hour and she called it

human cruelty and she said she herself has pretty hard to because the 24 hour rule that you said in the two appointments she cannot treat someone who has six weeks plus one six weeks plus a day, and she has seen that and that's what happens today with that in mind, what are the options for women and families and florida now this morning dating, they have three options. one, have the resources to become a medical refugee and leave our state oftentimes costing more than $2,500 having to travel to illinois, virginia, or maryland, depending on where you are unfortunately, and what we don't want women taking matters into their own hands. or three, availing yourself to the rape, incest, and human trafficking exemption, which i believe is a survivor of sexual assault is cruel and unusual the republican party in this state didn't see fit to have that exemption. and then i

believe so the devastating consequences of that in an election cycle and sought to provide that exemption in name only and you have to provide more documentation for that, which is horrific for survivors of sexual assault. you have three options, none of which are good. you don't know so that you're pregnant, it is six weeks. and i think this is a truly horrific time. moreover, than that abortion is health care. there's any complication in a pregnancy past six weeks doctors hands are tied and that is going to be horrifically dangerous. for the women in florida there's an amendment on the ballot, a ballot initiative in november that would secure if passed, if approved, it's secure the right to get an abortion in the state constitution, republican governor ron desantis, he said last he said last week that this quote will mandate abortion until the moment of birth. >> i have seen that fact check as false, but what is going on here?

>> i think that the republicans are continuing to try to utilize this. you saw this when the supreme court handed down both rulings, the approval of putting the amendment on the ballot and handing down the the upholding of the fifth in week ban, putting the six-week ban in place lies obvious cations of the truth. but what we know, what we know to be true is republicans independents and democrats alike across our state support this initiative. they know the legislature has gone too far i'm so sorry. i know the legislature has gone too far. >> says i'm sorry for the delay on our audio and i'm so sorry to also interrupt. thank you so much for your time. we have to run now we have breaking news. i have to get to here you're back. thank you so much. under back in new york. eric mayor eric adams now speaking at a press conference about the violence and the arrests that have played out in columbia university and beyond what's

happens in the city of this capacity magnitude and you have to be a well organized professional operation. to deal with all of those encounters and just want to thank commissioner caban the chief of department maddrey she shell commissioner daughtry. first deputy commissioner, to cella, and the entire operation is specifically just really fleet one, if they commissioner weiner, she was the one that was monitoring the situation when i first started seeing and the protests take place in the city, it just said that fit right. i saw similar indicators from the black lives matters march when it was brought to my attention that there were those who came to the city to disrupt our city. and she was able to do her team was eight he will

to conduct an investigation and what i feared was actually materialize in actualized by those who are on the ground. and i know that they are those who who are attempting to say where the majority of people may have been students. you don't have to beat a majority to influence and co-op and operation that here's what this about. and so if we want to play the road police, you could do so. i'm want to play the new york city police. were we're going to protect our city from those who are attempting to do what is happening globally. there is a movement to radicalize young people and i'm not going to wait eight until it's done and all of a sudden acknowledge the existence of it. this is a global problem that young people are being influenced by those who are festivals radicalizing our children. and i'm not going to allow that to happen as the mayor of the city of new york. so the minimum of new york city police department should be proud of so at the

request of columbia university after speaking with them throughout the week at their request their acknowledgement that outside agitators were on their grounds training and really co-opting this move at their requests. we went in a conducted operation to allow columbia university to remove those web turn the peaceful protests into a place where antisemitism and anti israeli attitudes were pervasive. approximately 300 people were arrested at columbia and city college. we are prosody arrest to distinguish between who were actual students and who were not supposed to on the ground. and we pointed out yesterday, these external actors with a history of escalating situations and trying to create chaos. not to peacefully

protest, but create chaos. the viewer at city college and you saw the bottles, the garbage cans the other items that were thrown at police officers, those police officers showed a great level of discipline to not allow this to evolved to an out of control situation. as we pointed out yesterday, they are attempting to disrupt our city. and we are not want to permit it to happen and we're proud to say they have been removed from the campus in my pds precision policing is sure that the russian was organized com that there were no injuries or violent clashes to be clear this is that our analysis of what took place last night national independent journalists acknowledged what the police depart did yesterday and they were on the ground to

see you and i want to be clear that we will continue to continue to use this level of professionalism we saw the intersectionality of all the things we have been working on drones allow us to do a complete analysis of the hamilton building and the location. we were able to know how to precisely go in and conduct the operation making sure the equipment, the decryption about radios, because they were not able to monitor in here are deployment tactics. it allowed us to have the element of surprise that we went on the ground train. without crt t precision lee known how to go in and dr. professional operation. we didn't wake up and executed the plan. this is a plan that has been put in place since january 2022 when we understood police department had to be prepared for uncertainties like this is sort of request and receive in writing, could not

have been clearer but those who broke into the building did include students. it was led by individuals who are not affiliated with the university. they needed the school, needed the nypd's assistance let's to clear hamilton hall and the encampments outside a dual operation on the grounds that took place, successful clearing the tent taken back, and reclaiming hammond, hamilton hall. >> and we said from the beginning that students have a right to protests and free speech is the corner stone of our society. >> but as our major concern we knew and we saw that they were those who were never concerned about free speech. they were concerned about chaos. it was about external actors hijacking peaceful protests in influence students to escalate this is not a peaceful about barricaded building, destroying property, or dismantle, dismantling

security cameras. we cannot allow what should be unlawful who protests to turn into a violent spectacle that saves as serves no purpose. as i said, there's no place for acts hate, in our city. we made that clear. as from antisemitism, islamophobia, or to antisemitism and other communities, as i aapi hi community, we have been consistent. there's no place for hate in this city. and i wanted to continue to commend the professionalism of the police department and to think i'm a university, was a tough decision. we understood that but with the very clear evidence of their observation and it clear evidence for our intelligence division that they understood it was time to move and the action had to end. and we brought it to a peaceful conclusion. would you and we're going to continue to coordinate with columbia as we have it from the star slot in all of

our academic institutions to find a peaceful middle of allowance young people to protests happening there to new york city's mayor, eric adams giving more detail about the police activity we've seen shown you the video as they moved in to clear out hamilton hall at columbia university overnight. importantly, he said, well, the people who were occupying, who were vandalizing that academic hall occluded students. he, the mayor says it was led by individuals who are not affiliated with a university, not concerned about free speech, but concerned about chaos external actors, he calls them sara is at columbia it's been standing by and listening into this as well. eric adams is putting his foot down. sarah yeah. >> i think over and over and over again, the methods judge, that he was sending was clear. he was very much talking about these external actors as he put it. people who were there were

not affiliated with the university he seems to be blaming for creating the chaos on campus. he said these were peaceful protest that were influenced by hi outside professional protesters and chaos agents and they are the ones that were instrumental in the the next phase of this protests, which went from tents on campus to inside, breaking into a building on campus hamilton hall just there behind me. he thanked the police officers for going in and was very clear that the university requested them as they must do, they requested them partly because they said the breaking end of hamilton hall was a clear violation of a peaceful protests, and that they believed external actor we're involved in helping that happen. in other words, it was their plan as opposed to the plan of the peaceful,

protesting students who had been on campus for two weeks decrying the war in gaza, calling for a ceasefire and calling for the university to divest from in any business that does business with israel and so what you're hearing from the mare is a lot of blame on external actors. i have been hearing from protests so as and faculty members, the mayor said there were no injuries. and that he prays the police department for going and they really did go in cape in sort of this shock and all type of maneuver where you had dozens of officers coming in at all different angles through windows, breaking open doors to get into hamilton hall he said they were using drones as well. well, to get a real picture of hamilton hall so that they knew exactly what was going on and where to enter. and then they had dozens the people that they pulled out of hamilton hall and arrested. we have heard from professors who were at the area where they are letting students out at this hour who have said

there were some injuries hey don't know exactly how there were calls, but there were injuries. people had lacerations and bruises. but did those injuries were not treated by ems or police that they were treated outside? i'd once they got done with being led out from arrest, but the scene on college campuses, kate, all over this country has become very tense. here, the encampment gone, the students in hamilton hall arrested the campus surrounded by a heavy police presence and barricades but in wisconsin, you know, we've been watching that. and in wisconsin you have police on campus trying to get rid of the encampment there. you have police now on campus at ucla hey, after violent clashes broke out with pro-israeli protesters going on the offensive against pro-palestinian protesters inside we on camp meant we are watching this happen across campuses. it is as if the war has come home. the ideology being fought between students

on either the side of the aisle. and as you heard from the mare, some external forces are trying to make their presence made as well yeah, and the mare even saying that there is a movement meant a radicalize young people. >> and he said that's what we're going into remove to remove those people that were not affiliated with the university as part of what's happening at columbia, right? behind you. >> sarah is going to sarah is going still there. we're going to get back to sarah that merit adams is continuing with his press conference. and here we're gonna have much more on all of this after a break, including what? as sarah mentioned, what is what is playing out at the university of wisconsin madison, right now, where we saw police moving in to disassemble an in camp men attending kammen, there after i believe the school it said that it was in violation of state law and then police moved in. >> we'll be right back raising

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and republican congresswoman marjorie taylor greene says she is moving forward and will force a vote to oust republican house speaker mike johnson. >> it's good over seen as manu raju was on capitol hill with this new reporting and money, you were just at this press conference. what did she say? >> yeah. she made clear that she plans to call for this vote next week. of course, any one republican member or democratic member could call for a vote to oust is sitting house speaker and she plans to do that next week, but there's much difference well, we saw last fall in which kevin mccarthy became the first ever speaker of the house to be ousted by the, by his own colleagues at that point, all democrats joined with eight republicans to kick out kevin mccarthy this time, much different because democratic leaders are saying that they plan to essentially vote to kill this resolution, to oust mike johnson as speaker. i most republicans plan to join it. so this will overwhelmingly fail, but greene

says that she wants to put republicans and democrats on record about where they stand on this key issue as she railed mike johnson's dealmaking to keep the government open when to move forward under surveillance law, and to fund to provide aid to ukraine in its war against russia, all of which she contended with a quote, a betrayal of republicans. but so she made clear that she plans to force it his vote listen we cannot let people down again. >> we cannot fail. president trump next week, i am gonna be calling this motion to vacate absolutely calling it. i can't wait to see democrats go out and support a republican speaker and have to go home to their primaries and half to run for congress again, having supported a republican speaker, a christian conservative, i think that'll play well. i'm excited about it so this can happen pretty quickly next week as the day that she plans to actually offer this resolution on the house floor the

republican leadership could cause essentially vote to kill this immediately. >> and that's likely what will happen. other question will be, how many republicans ultimately joiner right now they're only three republicans, including her who have publicly come out in support of her effort to oust mike johnson, also one person who has not been in favor of moving head former president donald trump. i pressed her about why she's going forward this with donald trump's opposition apparently to this effort. she contended that mike johnson is not advancing the trump agenda and defended her support for the former president just so interesting because i remember a previous conversation you had where she was pretty evasive about whether donald trump was supporting her efforts as she was moving towards this it's towards this motion to vacate. it's good to see you, mano. >> thank you so much for bringing us up breaking news, john. >> all right. we've been watching protests around the country. i think we have live pictures from whiskey thompson were the most recent round of clashes have taken place between law enforcement and protesters on the campus as the university of wisconsin at

madison. and we just heard from new york city mayor eric adams on the operation overnight at columbia university, were police moved into retake hamilton hall? which was a building, a campus building which had been seized by protesters may or adam says there have been 300 arrests. he said they are sorting through now how many of the arrests were students or what he called outside agitators. he did say a number we're from outside the university as in not students. and he said that the people who led the seizure of hamilton, all the takeover of hamilton hall, the ones who lead it and divide it. we're not students. >> he also said there were no reported injuries overnight from the operation. >> and he said that there are still police on the grounds of columbia in a war, invited it with us. now, julia chi m or national security analysts, right now, juliette, i think you were listening to mayor eric adams as well. interesting to hear him distinguish between

the outside agitators and the student protesters. i imagine there is an element of that which is political for him yeah absolutely. >> i've been in conversations with people at columbia. i know people who are working for columbia i and part of what he says is accurate there and we're going to see that in the arrest numbers. we saw them earlier, people unaffiliated with the school will are are arrested. they were there and part of that is what kind of access controls can these colleges and universities provide to ensure that the lawful student protests are able to go on. i do worry, however, that we're this narrative of the outsider is a bit of a crutch we, colleges and universities these will be ill-prepared to do what they need to do, which is include, allow lawful protest if they think it's just a bunch of outsiders let's be realistic here. there's a group of

students who lawfully and legitimately, in terms of the first amendment, have things to protest against their colleges and universities us old people who aren't used to this. we, it's been a long time since we've seen these kinds of protest allude cells and dilute our planning and maybe aren't listening to what the students want. i have defended the right to protest. i do not defend and do think there is appropriate police action when that protests turned since to unlawful behavior. and i also think fortunately, what we're seeing is not really clashes. i think even madison wisconsin looks kind of hectic, but it actually looks like crowds are just moving in different directions depending on the control that the police want. and students who are willing to be arrested rule that is, the brachial. >> julia. >> i have been put it on. i don't want to interrupt you, juliet, but i think on your if you can see and i'm not sure you have moderate or watch this, you can see university of

wisconsin madison live right now and you can see the law enforcement with their shields up, their riot shields up, forming a line there and pushing back and it does appear that the two sides are pushing up against each other right now. there's more literal pushing and shoving than we've seen in some time yes. >> and that and part of that is that will hopefully de-escalate police know how to do this when they're pushed, are just standing, align and that's, you know, this is, this is, as i said to you, john yesterday it's none of these things are ideal. i'm just looking this from the perspective of what could be your worst-case scenario as a parent of college kids at any parent watching this, anyone who remembers kent state, the interaction of student protest with law enforcement as it can turn violent. we don't want this. what ever our viewpoints are about either the protesters or the counter protestors. so we are seeing attempts to de-escalate this kind of energy

and disruptions that we're seeing. and as i said, students who are acting unlawfully, who are not following time and place restrictions ought to get arrested and they will be arrested. what we saw yesterday and what we've seen elsewhere is lots of students don't want to get arrested and with appropriate crowd controls and the appropriate use of law enforcement which i generally think it should be limited. and i think we have are beginning to see that now as compared to two weeks ago i we can de-escalate. i want to say this again. the word de-escalate as the responsibility of leadership. i know there's lots of energy lots of complaints about what's happened with these student protests, what they're protesting, whether they're scaring other students, that's that is legitimate debate but the responsibility of institutions and leadership and n law

enforcement is what they've been trained for, which is to try to de-escalate these situations, protect students who feel intimidated jewish students or otherwise, as well as protesters a failure to do that. we saw this morning at ucla and i think that's important to remind folks that we can de-escalate and that responsibility i'm not calling them kids. but one has to believe that those of us who are several decades older have better judgment than others. and also know how to de-escalate and very heated situation. and i think it's important that we keep our heads through this very difficult time and utilize law enforcement, public safety, leadership, techniques of de-escalation russian that we know work and we have seen them work in the colleges and universities that we aren't covering, which is good all right, julia i am thank you for watching this along side us, we

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one thing we all know so well as you have done so much reporting in this area, yeah. around cannabis. i mean, what you've seven documentaries on this very topic. what are you learning about this proposed change when it comes to marijuana yeah. >> it's potentially a big deal. it's not done yet. but in october of 2020 to the white house, asked hhs to say to review whether or not canada's could be rescheduled. it is now going to the dea there are still gotta go through this formal rulemaking process, but it's happening in a way that we have not seen before really quick kate schedule one, which is what cannabis is now, basically means that things you see on the screen there, no accepted medical use, which we know is not true hi potential for abuse. there is potential for abuse, but look what they're comparing it to heroin, lsd, ecstasy, for example what scheduled three means, and you can and you can see not only what the criteria are, but also some other examples less potential for

abuse and also acknowledging this idea that there is medicinal benefits they're more in line with tylenol, with codeine buprenorphine, ketamine things like that kate, i got to say we have been reporting on this for awhile. charlotte figure you may remember her young girl with intractable seizures she tried everything and nothing worked. and then she tried cbd oil and gop benefit. we've known for some time that there can be medicinal use for it and i think the legislation and starting to catch up it really is. >> and what a what a beautiful soul that you became so close with her and her family. and the beautiful life that she that she was able to have. thanks to what really became a miracle medicine for her, which is what she found in cannabis sanjay. thank you so much for this work. again, this is a proposed rule public comment, period. there and then we'll see what happens with the ni