now the university of michigan was where the not a rally continues with hundreds of students. they are going to continue to remain here and they keep making those demands and events demands of actually trying increase today your josiah talking about them. thank you very much, john henry is latest from that radi there as the american students mock 76 years since the knoxville catastrophe. and all those stories are following us present. jo, my been the form president donald trump of agreed to hold a televised debate to candidates of reports and lee agreed to june 27th for this event to to be add on cnn. now the is planned for september time's on us network, a b, c. presidential debates have usually been held in october, so that the vibe and campaigns has a rise in our revising means. they should be have health and they are on now the european union is urging the jordan government to a drawer, a so called foreign influence will be used as it would negatively impact the

countries progress towards joining and brought me if you've ever done co has more from tbilisi in europe and officials of reiterates that comments about the negative consequences of the costing of the so called for an agents bill, which was approved by georgia's parliament on tuesday. now this bill will require energy, rose and the media receiving 20 percent or more of the funding from abroad to declare themselves. agents are for an input, your foreign policy cheaper, so that federal has said that will have a negative impact on george's bid to join the european union as a candidate and the spokes person for nato has said that it is a step away from europe in euro atlantic integration, now we've spoken to the e u. m. best of the to georgia. i don't have chintz case and he says that it's too early to talk about concrete consequences because not all hope is lost still. and that's still a window of opportunity to have this module. we all know to you there,

there's still a window of opportunity that all of us, including the government, 1st and foremost the government should use in order not to let it happen. in case discrepancy. yes, there will be consequences at, but we are noted there and i sincerely hope that we will not be there. so it's all boils down to the veto procedure at present problem is that obviously is expected to veto this law and that will be returned back to parliament. and this could take another couple of weeks, reaching that in co, out to 0, releasing a lot set for this for this, and then i'll be back with it. and now that's full program fully in about 25 minutes. i will bring you all the latest on how top stories today the program coming up next is fault lines and of course, as always the website out there and i'll call the read. so one of the words with his creatures numbers, a plumber to do to deforestation. culture and climate change indian signed

a fighting to protect. one of the most important things to control the species is communicating that habitat 101 east reveals the bottle to save and use with. oh no, just the there are like videos all the time of, of children screaming. a girl like with her eyes like completely blocked out. people with amputated limbs like a father screaming and holding his daughter is dead daughter. night after night miriam old one looks at images like these from guys. she's palestinian america 21 years old and a student of columbia university in new york. like i feel like i'm living in an in an alternate world. an i don't, i don't understand how people are, are that i don't know if they're seeing it and they're just not caring or if they're not seeing. and if it's my job to like tell people about it. what would you

want people to know the reality of what it's like for palestinians? that's not a conflict. it's a part time. and now it's genocide. maureen is part of the group on our campus has been organizing protest and trying to educate people about the situation and cause that this activism comes at a price order with a me or posted online call me a terrorist. and that did result in losing my job. the suppression of palestine advocacy and speech in the us has a long history. but since october 7th is intensified and university campuses are on the front lines. my name is de square, posted on virtually campus, moving into somebody with my name and you know about the font, you know, with a big photo and then a website. they're putting a target on my back. they're saying, here's your person, go get her. i think it's an exception to freedom of speech. yeah. we're allowed to talk about anything except this one thing. both points investigates what the

correct down on palestine advocacy means for academic freedom in the us. they think that if they attack us enough, then everyone else will be quiet, but they don't realize that we can't be silent. and it's just going to motivate people to rise up more. this is one of many protest students at columbia have organized since october 7th. they've been calling for an in israel's a question in casa and through university start investment from companies that profit off the occupation of palestine showed that they will do whatever it takes to maintain its financial space. and it's really a part time maureen is of leader of columbia students for justice and palestine for s j p. which organizes closely with jewish boys for peace. we just are trying to educate people about the ways in which the palestinians are oppressed. we are

really looking to the history of like the south african apartheid and how it was spearheaded by the use on college campuses. on the 9th, i think genocide, investment is the ultimate goal from watson, many factors, and companies that profit off of illegal settlements and things that are, are just violating human rights. in november, the university suspended both groups, campus administrators that they held and unauthorized a bit that it was later a guilt. administrators had changed the policy about hosting campus events as protest supported, garza picked up the

administrators also alleged that the reason for the group suspension was that the protest included threatening rhetoric and intimidation. when we met in person with the senior executive vice president, he said it was references to apartheid genocide and from the river to the sea. palestine will be free, could be seen as an incitement to violence against those really students from the river to the sea is a call for equality. because israel's and the parties that we're not saying jewish people shouldn't be there or saying just have a full right. the language used to support palestinian rights or critique is really policies as long and typically scrutinized in spirit as into some medicaid speech. no government should be held above criticism. there is a strategy right now in the united states by perusal, lobby groups to label any and all speech critical of israel's actions as anti semitic. if you criticize is really, you just have to point that's automatically anti semitism. you can't even debate it

. and anyone who tries to debate it is an anti semite or pain to educate the student body or just to put a little bit of new ones in the conversation is labeled as anti semitic is incredibly frustrating. these graduate students at columbia are all studying international human rights policy after the master attack on october 7th, they were accused the beauty semitism for statement they released along with more than 20 other student groups. we sort of said, you know, the conditions in the eyes are terrible. like it's an open air prison. you know, we some of a sudden things like and we've been warning against this for so long while the loss of both palestinian and it's really life. the letter also said the responsibility for the war and casualties lies with this really government. i'd say similar statements. my students at universities like harvard provoked the anger of donors and politicians. i don't think the statement went over very well with design as on campus and off campus. a few weeks later, they were dropped, a pro israel crew publish their names and some of their photos online. and on these

trucks, which circle campus, they called them columbia is leading into so much. i come for the 1st generation family and outpatient of that. so when i try not to stress my family out, i try not to, i try, you know, you can't really explain to a, been all the mother would talk. so you really use the group also created websites which students full names. and all of this has very identical paragraphs here saying the are part of a student group that signed a statement. hannah is the leader of an organization assigned a hand table, and i select statement. your university must have done something to protect you here, right? you think so there's some dangers in place that a task force a multiple task force. yeah. how does that help you though? it doesn't. it doesn't mean that by not calling out that the trucks are falsely claiming that we're anti semites by then creating it. as i mentioned in task force, it makes it seem like actually our interest anti semite is jewish. before coming to

columbia, she worked for jewish organizations, helping high school students, identify the difference between anti semitism. it protects it as real. so to have all of my, you know, young life's work so far be boiled down to 3 words. is we just really? i mean it is a i think it says a lot about where we are at the state of the world. i don't think it's any stretch to say that we're in the mccarthy era moment here when it comes to speech, depression radical. so i know if there's a senior attorney with palestine legal, civil rights organization that monitors the suppression of palestine activism. much of the work is focused on college campuses. and since october 7th, their phone hasn't stopped ringing. we're seeing a record number of requests from students who have been facing severe anti palestinian hostile environments on their campus. and we know that students are filing complaints and the university is doing nothing. universities are happy to

embrace diversity, different political opinions, but then when it's for palestinian rights, you're suspended your investigated your shut down profile. the stein and 1st amendment advocates have a phrase for this. it's called the palestine exception to free speech. effectively your tools, you can research anything, you can do your ph, d, on anything. you can have a, a protest on the public square about anything except homeless thing. and if you make it about power sign, you're going to be accused of being anti semitic of being your rational lance. he is around or of being supportive of terrorism for several months. the university has act. we asked to this idea or that the fear or discomfort or anger that some people might feel when they see a coffee or a palestinian flag means that there's a threat that has to be suppressed. like, did you catch up on like what happened with the drum on the call this morning and

there's all these things happening all the time. that of course we have to check not only what's happening and post nights, but like, oh, did i get the docs here? is this professor who is harassing us and did he say something else like it just feel like we're in the fight or flight mode all the time. like completely hyper vigilant. have you been doing like your homework and stuff like that? like we need to do like studies as together. the thing is like whenever we study together, we just end up talking about us, your opinions. if you'd be i feel guilty for even like trying to continue with my normal life as this is happening. i feel bad for thinking about myself and my friends because every time they attack us it's, it's a distraction from what's going on and goes on. maureen was supposed to graduate this year, but that's not happening anymore. watching the atrocities and causal unfold and battle and university administrators crack down a student actions has taken the tool. i lost like 20 i least, 20 pounds last i checked. i think it's probably more. no. i don't sleep at night.

and i, i had to drop my cost was last semester. i feel like i can't focus when my professors are speaking to me. do you think columbia cares? yeah, absolutely not. the message from the administration that i'm getting is that posted in life doesn't matter. and that includes my, the one thing i learned is that either the universities don't care about their students. what do they care about? the donor money and where the money comes from and how to keep that going. billionaire, alumni and wealthy donors has some of the more prestigious schools in the country, pulling back funds that were the response to anti israel rallies on campus. after october 7th, many donors condemned to pro palestine demonstrations on campuses. use media jump on story, dominating headlines, even as, as rules the tax on cause escalated. the room, shame is, i've given to columbia probably about $50000000.00 of a many years suspend my give you, how much did you donate to them?

i probably don't a between like $70000000.00 so far. okay. so that's gonna be a hit to them and they're in damn at the university administrators didn't just build the heat donors. they were also getting it from capitol hill. yes. or no. calling for the genocide of jews does not constitute bullying harassment in december, the president's a 3 prestigious universities and went to harvard and the university of pennsylvania were called to testify and a congressional hearing about anti semitism on college campuses. for now, it was one of several such hearings on the hill after october 7th. i have not heard calling for the genocide for jews on our campus, but you've heard chance for intifada for chance, which can be anti semitic depending on the context the president of the universities did not question the underlying promise which was completely incorrect students for just as in palestine and other students calling for an end to the genocide are not calling for genocide abuse. i am asking specifically

calling for the genocide of jews. does that constitute bullying harassment? it is a context dependent decision congresswoman. these university presidents, much like many people who operate in the space, they find themselves locked between their principles. wanted to send free speech and we don't want to spend political capital and as well, tell us fine. it's a no wind thing for us. if we get it right on principle, we're going to get destroyed politically including by donors. and if we get it wrong, free speech is going to be hurt anti semitic rhetoric when it crosses into conduct . cutting gay was harvard university's 1st black president, medation. i will ask you one more time after the searing calling, she became a sort of serving president. again, it depends on the contacts. it does not depend on the context. the answer is yes, and this is why you should resign less than a month for their testimonies. the president of harvard and the university of pennsylvania did resign. it was

a gotcha hearing and they got themselves got into all of our good afternoon. we're seeing the, the growing synergy between sort of an anti welcome movement on the right with what is an anti free speech on israel movement. all 3 of the people testifying, please know, but they basically played into the hands of members of congress who wanted to use them to score political points against academia and they failed to defend free speech. so we're seeing the playbook being written for how you would go into a university like columbia or harvard or pen and say, you can't talk about race. you can't talk about gender. and what we're actually being faced with right now is a question of who has the right to control what people can learn and teach each other this infringement on academic freedom as a plague professor is like dr. lar, she hi will before october, 7th, horrifying,

horrifying to think that you actually are in danger. how could one be in danger from be scolded her in 2022. she was an assistant professor at george washington university in washington dc where she trained future clinicians. so the diversity classes that i teach are really about structural oppression and the psychological impact of that and our responsibilities connections. to think about that, that's september. she hosted a campus event about mental health and brought a palestinian scholar from hebrew university interesting to speak. and so she walked us through our responsibilities and ethical duties as clinicians to be careful not to, let's say, unwittingly push the cause or the policies of any state. her example was israel, she is in his early citizen. she works in the context, was that controversial at the time? absolutely not. there were no questions or indications that that was received

poorly. but during the following class, a few students said they felt uncomfortable by the talk and thought the speaker was anti semitic. i railed my teaching for that day, the entire hour and a half was dedicated to truly hearing out the students their concerns. the very realness of anti semitism. did they say specifically what they were so upset by their critique was primarily any criticism of the state of israel is tantamount to anti semitism. and so therefore, this talk was an end to some fact talk 3 months later, a pro is real advocacy group called stand with us launched a title 6 complaint discrimination claim file with the department of education that goes to university get a q she hi, of hate speech and discriminating against her jewish and it's really students

a copy of the complaint was released to her right wing media outlet with everyone's name rejected except she has. i woke up in the morning to a slew of hate mail, heinous, racist, sexist, anti era. hate mail. my address was released the place of course where i work. they flooded my employers, emails or phone calls. threats of rape, force deportation. harm towards my family. everything under the sun that you could imagine on every possible platform. everywhere there was no place that is safe. the title says complaint kicked up a much longer investigation by george washington university, which hired a private law firm to investigate. she had found that many of the allegations were either inaccurate were taken out of context. them is represented,

but even though she hi was cleared, the tax continued post october 7th. i had 2 events of mine actually be cancelled. so in 2 weeks i had dropped the truck in new york and the docks and truck then and dc. again, you don't have to do very much for the racist is on the public machine to run. well, we'll release the name, but the rest do the work for itself. title 6 has been weaponized by pro is all lobby groups and this has been going on for 10 years now. and it's to send the message to other people, other professors who dare to criticize what is roles doing? who dare to bring speakers? who criticize what is always doing that we will come after you and it won't stop. and we reached out to stand with us about the doctor. she had did not address our case, but in a statement said that they believe as real as an important component of jewish identity. the title 6 investigation accusing she hi, could take years to resolve. it is made me think that the united states is quickly

becoming a place where it might be dangerous for academics to sink freely and speak freely in january, she high resign from her position at george washington university is now teaching in the middle east, but she's still getting kate mill, this one or right the year after the tax 1st started. the intent is to heart mr. railroad is to intimidate it's to silence is to make people feel alone. so make people feel like a pariah. this is not some low key. a campaign that people wage we looked into a number of organizations. they've been trying to shut down palestine advocacy for years. especially since be the yes, the boycott best match sanctions movement contraction into us. among them is canary mission blacklisting website. the target to people who are critical of those real various investigative reports that exposed is really intelligence that's used it to

keep people out of the country. and while little is known about who runs it, some of his donors are what the groups in the us. it's one of many such organizations doing this work. you have this giant ecosystem of organizations that who framed themselves as defending do or students and fighting anti semitism. and really all they do, or most of what they do is target criticism of israel. it's clear, intention is this will follow you for the rest of your life. and when you have a job opportunity, people google and they will find it and it will frontier. it's been, all of this is about punishment and showing effect. we've got a sense of best well reporting the story. now i've talked to somebody said continue to stand on the side of justice and freedom, then you call these crappy lot. and somehow that was interesting to make me how to be someone who was hateful or who was trying to insight sheets. several university

students and staff we spoke with had experienced intimidation and harassment for their abuse on palestine and didn't want to appear on camera. some more afraid for their safety or facing professional consequences. i want to work in health care. it's scary. my identity, something that i cannot even change can affect that and can grow and not from those . some had already lost jobs. i had a job lined up for auction graduation, and my employer told me that they would be rescinding the offer that i already accepted because of my husband. because they basically told me that i was doing an interpreted support for chairs as soon as you raised terrorism in this country, particularly post 911. i mean, you're really up in nancy right in this world right now. if you're on campus talking about cease fire, your being called both anti semitic and a supporter of terror. you know, there's a lot of talk about keeping safe. our jewish students who feel uncomfortable by

advocacy on behalf of palestine and have a great deal of sympathy for what those students are experiencing. but there hasn't been any talk about how this a path impacts our jewish students who are committed to justice and peace in palestine or how it impacts our palestinian students. i spoke about my family audits and sharon, i talked about how they were formed and how we were trying to find their bodies under the rubbing. and for doing that, i received a disciplinary notice from my university. so do you feel like you don't have the freedom to just simply just say stop the violence? no, but i want to go, well, that's the basic question is do the lives of palestinians matter. and one of the premises of the suppression is that they don't. and nobody should be talking

about them and no one has a right to talk about columbia university. did not respond to our requests for an interview, but linked audio. here's what the university's vice president, gerald ross burke had to say about palestine protest. i could imagine that somebody listening that in is really still being told that their state just, i'd say a racist a committing genocide. seems to them like that excitement for violence against them . meanwhile, mario and her classmates were advocating for palestinian rights continued to get 8000000 doctorates. one of the emails was like swinging from a rope, that's where a stomach trash belong to people telling us to kill ourselves, that they're saying the same thing to my jewish friends. they're calling them not real jews. but there's one message to still haunts or should be out here, shutting down each model. ok. and let's start with something to columbia employee told the college radio station at one of the protests to serve

administrative, jewish scientist. ok. i hope everyone is picking i don't think i haven't listened to it in a while. i didn't think that i would have like a reaction to it again. what is your reaction to it? i am like really scared and people are like, oh, how are you if you're scared them just. * but i can't because the whole point is to scare me to the point that i don't do this anymore. how long can you keep doing this? until i, until my last, like i. and maybe it can have caught influence on our government. i don't know. but at the very least, i think other palestinians are seeing it and they're saying that they're not alone . we're seeing the biggest protests for palestine rights for human rights against genocide. it really in my lifetime and the, i'd say the folks who want to kill protests and actually do legitimize is not

criminalized through speech on israel palestine. see correctly that universities are their biggest challenge throughout history. students on us college campuses have been on the front lines for social change and i think israel and its dante as allies recognize that that is why they are engaging in an all out war on us college campuses. the they are waiting for us to lease was rest assured, even if it's not also will be on the new wave of students dot com the

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